
H*** S******* not only co-opting the mobilization around Treyvon Martin’s murder (posting a pic of himself in a white hoodie), but people quite seriously writing and reblogging a “critique” of his doing so that centers on how he could be using his privilege to divest in Florida and threaten the state with loss of his tourist dollars.
No. Really. H***. The best critique you can come up with is that he could use his privilege better?
How about, tell him to get the fuck out of this mobilization? To keep his self-serving white face away from it all together? And to keep Martin’s name out of his mouth? And to stop capitalizing on the murder of a young Black man to try to clean up his own evil image?
And fuck any of you that actually post that picture on my dash without any hard & serious critique of him. I mean critique beyond just how you think he could use his privilege. I don’t want him to use his privilege to do jack shit, because he’s been doing that his whole life with devastating consequences for many of us. Critique him for daring to insert himself into this discourse at all. Not for how you think he spends his money.
Better yet, don’t post his picture at all. Shit. That face is fucking triggering to nearly all non-white people at this point.
I….
This man is literally a monster. If I didn’t already believe that he was, this would be proof.
I just can’t even…
Someone needs to stop him.
you. are. SHITTING ME
excuse me while i go vomit in my mouth.
Why does he insist on inserting himself into everything and making it all about him? He needs to drop the charade and go hang out with the MRAs. They deserve each other.
I think it’s worth pointing out that, while it took about 8 days for feministx to wend its way to, you know, the women of color it is directed against, some medieval historian from pasadena was hip to it well before everyone else.
oh, yes, he was right up on that shit—when his last blog post was A MONTH AGO. it makes a LOT OF SENSE THAT HE INSTANTANEOUSLY FOUND AN ANONYMOUS BLOG AND REBLOGGED THAT WHICH SPOKE TO HIM.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA DNAFJDAFDSAFNDSAHF;ASKFM;SDA
THIS IS WHAT DESPERATION LOOKS LIKE.
We are a group of established feminist activists, educators, writers, bloggers and lecturers. We are speaking out as the result of the behaviour and posts coming from some of the online feminist community, which we view as unhealthy for the movement. After some thoughtful consideration, we can…
No.
We ask you toe top being cowardly entitled twits, who only seek to speak to us form positions of privilege and anonymity.
We ask that you stop , with your UNSUPPORTED ARROGANCE trying to clumsily position yourself as the authorities on legitimate critiques as if you haven’t been deconstructed by PHD’s MA’s and extensively credentialed people for you lack of ethics, qualifications or basic mores
We seek that you have an actual base of beliefs rather than a slimy disgusting opportunistic desire to protect your careers.
We seek that you stop being hand flailing victims determined to position anyone not like you as attacking to artlessly invoke racial, gender and class stereotypes , as well as flagrant transmisogyny.
We ask that you actually name folks as members of the community and not as hegemonic ally validated overlords speaking to unwashed masses.
But most of all we ask that you stop missing the point .
That the take down of oppression, violence and abuse of women is the NUMBER ONE goal of those who experience it in ways that can’t be hidden behind anonymous letters.
And if your careers, safe spaces , and credentials come down with it.
Oh well
Welcome to the Thunderdome, we hope you brought helmets
I’ll make the popcorn.
And did they just use an Audre Lorde quote to defend Hugo Schwyzer? She must be spinning in her grave. -_-
“I knew I hadn’t committed any crime. But the sense of sadness—tinged with disgust—at what Katie and I had conspired to allow to happen made me feel very much like an accidental rapist.”—
The Accidental Rapist — The Good Men Project
Hugo Schwyzer, folks. This is an essay in which a man tells his readers about how he willfully and repeatedly disregarded his partner’s negative responses to his sexual advances, and then insists that she played an equal part in the situation because she didn’t explicitly say no.
What he refers to here as “[w]hat Katie and I had conspired to allow to happen” is him having sex with her in spite of her giving clear non-verbal indications that she didn’t want sex. On multiple occasions. Don’t you just love that vague passiveness (“allowed to happen”)? His use of the term “conspired” is particularly disgusting, since it suggests a consensus between the two of them that obviously didn’t exist. The issue is precisely that his girlfriend (and I really, really hope that her real name isn’t “Katie”) did not feel she could tell him what she wanted and didn’t want. That’s the exact opposite of a conspiracy, which requires an agreement between at least two people.
Hugo first invokes and then distances himself from the term “accidental rape”; he doesn’t describe himself as an “accidental rapist,” he merely says that he “fe[lt] very much like” one. And the fact that he will admit to feeling this way, even though he totally doesn’t need to because it was her fault too, is supposed to make us think he’s a super good guy, especially since he’s been super careful ever since this incident to never ever allow a thing like this to happen again (except for all those times he slept with his students, and the time he tried to murder another girlfriend, but whatever).
It’s not fair to expect men to read minds, or even to perfectly intuit subtle body language. As I tell the teens with whom I work, a precondition for being ready for a sexual relationship is having the courage to say a firm “No” to the people you love.
The silence and unresponsiveness of a partner are not “subtle” to anyone who values their partner’s pleasure. And surely paying some goddamn attention to your partner ought to be at least as important a ”precondition for being ready for a sexual relationship” as “having the courage to say a firm ‘No.’” And even though he uses the gender-neutral “teens” in this passage, let’s be clear that this is a gendered issue. The people who most often find themselves in unwanted sexual situations and still remain hesitant to “say a firm ‘No’” are female; the people who most often benefit from this hesitation are male.
The reason it’s important for women to be able “to say a firm ‘no’” is that so many men refuse to acknowledge any refusal short of that from their female partners. They do so because they’ve been taught that this is acceptable behavior by people like Hugo, in articles exactly like this one. The reason it takes “courage” for women to say “no” is that so many men — including Hugo, here and elsewhere — actively reinforce cultural messages about how much it hurts men when women reject them (just read any of the many passages in this article about how bad Hugo felt when Katie told him what had been going on). Women respond by trying to refuse unwanted sex without saying “no,” because they don’t want to be “cruel” to their partners. Men respond to this by ignoring women’s refusals, because they’re not saying the word “no.” Everything about this dynamic contributes to making it easy for men to ignore women’s signals and hard for women to make their signals loud enough to get past men’s determination to ignore them.
It’s a major problem that so many women have so much hesitation about saying the word “no” in sexual situations. But the source of that problem is the overall dynamic, which originates in men’s behavior, and a more appropriate way to address it — especially for a man writing to men on a men’s website — would be to address the fact that not enough men pay attention to the ways women are already saying “no.” As valuable as explicit communication can be, it’s not the only clear way to communicate, which Hugo even admits:
Katie had seemed so passionate when we’d been making out, but then gotten very quiet once all our clothes were off. I’d told myself she wanted to have one ear cocked for the sound of a key in the door. I hadn’t considered—or hadn’t wanted to consider—the more obvious possibility: she was trying to tell me that she didn’t want to have sex.
That was indeed “the more obvious possibility,” and he even admits the possibility that his refusal to see it was willful. And yet:
[O]n those not-infrequent occasions when she wanted to make out and “fool around” but nothing more—she had no vocabulary for that. And over and over again, I took her reticence as a sign to “try harder” rather than to slow down. The blame for that rested on both of us.Right. She “had no vocabulary” for saying no, which is why she gave him signs of refusal that just a few paragraphs earlier he called “obvious.” And his refusal to read them is her fault, too, because she didn’t explicitly say the word “no.” Never mind that he also didn’t explicitly ask her what she wanted — apparently she’s the only one who had any responsibility to make things clear verbally.
No, this was not “accidental rape.” As for whether it should be called “rape,” Katie is the only one who can determine that; but whatever you call it, it was clearly a violation, and it was just as clearly not accidental. Even if it was unconscious on Hugo’s part (and given his history and the way he tells this story, I have my doubts about that), unconscious is not the same as accidental.
There’s a reason Hugo feels it’s perfectly reasonable to assign at least half the blame for this situation to his girlfriend because she didn’t say the word “no.” It’s because the default view of heterosexual relations is that men always want sex and are always going to try to get it, and they can’t be expected to care how their female partners feel about it unless they’re forced to. Therefore if women don’t want sex, it’s completely their responsibility to make that absolutely 100% explicitly clear in so many words, at the appropriate time, because expecting men to initiate a discussion about sex is patently ridiculous, because why would they do that when they know they can just go ahead and try for it and at least some of the time end up in a situation in which the woman doesn’t feel comfortable explicitly saying “no” because she’s been trained her whole life to think that others’ needs are more important than her own, and that refusing sex is crippling to the male ego, etc. etc., and therefore the man can retain plausible deniability because even though she made it clear she wasn’t into it, she never said the word “no.”
Not. Accidental.
How do you “accidentally rape” someone, anyway? You’re a rapist, Hugo. Now go away and never come back.
With a heavy heart but without hesitation, I have resigned from my positions as co-director of both Healthy is the New Skinny and the Perfectly Unperfected Project.
I have been so proud to work with “HNS” and “PUP” over the last two years. But as the controversy…

threegreenheartsandachesspiece:
It seems that a lot of people on Tumblr are of the opinion that unless an issue affects you personally, then shut the fuck up. I disagree. If you are ignorant on an issue, then yes, you should listen to someone who knows what they are talking about and this…
I was going to respond to this fuckery by posting the “You must be new here” picture and a link to the sf_drama post, but this does a better job of outlining the problems with Schwyzer without resorting to 4chan memes.
[Image: A Facebook comment. “Erika Lynn Hartman Or we could torture them or use a Saudi Arabian-style justice system and cut their hands off in a public square.”. Liked by Hugo]
Hugo likes it when his sycophants talk about cutting our hands off, Arabian style.
Nice approving of violence against (mostly) women! Not like one of our biggest criticisms is that you got away scotch-free for trying to kill your partner!
ETA: And as autumn-and-eve points out, also! Racism.
That’s enough, Hugo Schwyzer. You’re just making yourself look even worse.
It’s like he’s unraveling in real time on facebook.
Hugo Schwyzer is calling the internet police.
Run, everyone.
I BET HE ALSO HAS AN INTERNET LAWYER. SOMEONE CALL PHOENIX WRIGHT, BECAUSE I THINK WE’RE GOING TO NEED HIM. :[ :[ :[
There’s also a Twitter!
Please contact me if you want to help run this show, ‘cause I really could use it. I’m on the social networks all day long but it would great if someone could write some content for the FB page, like some sort of “what’s wrong with Hugo Schwyzer?” thing or…something.
Signal boosting. Even if you don’t identify as a feminist, join anyway because he’s hella creepy.